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Michelle Sims
Michelle Sims

Season 2, Episode 1: The Heart of the Staffing Industry

YUPRO CEO Michelle Sims talks with Jenny about her organization’s inspiring mission and how our industry can prioritize the heart of our work: helping others reap the benefits of what they do.

Kamela Forbes

But First, People Season 2 Trailer

Kamela is back—and so is But First, People! Get a sneak peek at the next season in our trailer, and be sure to subscribe on your favorite podcasting app for more.

Annie Davies
Annie Davies

Episode 9: Talent Engagement Is a Team Sport

Jenny asks Pride Global's Annie Davies how she became a pioneer in the emerging field of talent engagement—and how it transforms the way we work.

Kate Goss
Kate Goss

Episode 8: Creating Opportunity With Kate Goss

Jenny talks with PrideOne's Kate Goss about the leader's path to the staffing industry—and the work she's done to make it a more welcoming place for women.

Kelly Newman
Kelly Newman

Episode 7: Staying in the Mental Blue Zone

Emotional-intelligence expert and executive coach Kelly Newman gives Kamela the details on how leaders can foster greater psychologically safety in the workplace.

Dr. Tiffany Dotson
Dr. Tiffany Dotson

Episode 6: Be Learned, Not Educated

Kamela Forbes is joined by her predecessor at Pride, Dr. Tiffany Dotson, to discuss the DEI professional's journey and how she's teaching leaders to be better followers.

Tim Tobin
Tim Tobin

Episode 5: Connecting Talent With Tim Tobin

For her first episode hosting But First, People, Jenny Davis talks about the importance of connecting talent with opportunity with Tim Tobin, head of Russell Tobin and Pride Health.

Bridgette Gray
Bridgette Gray

Episode 4: How to Hire Real DEI STARs

But First, People hosts Bridgette Gray from Opportunity@Work to discuss how to reach diverse talent by seeking out STARs with real-life experience.

Dr. Judith Joseph
Dr. Judith Joseph

Episode 3: Creating a Culture of Wellness

Dr. Judith Joseph chats with But First, People about the tools people need to overcome today’s mental health challenges, at work and in the world.